Burn the Libraries

By Penny Scout

I generally don’t care much for poetry, but I do have a favorite, The Tables Turned, by the Romantic poet William Wordsworth. Andy, my boyfriend at the time, sent it to me on a series of postcards when I was first getting into rewilding. The first poem below provides the background for the second. According to Wordsworth, they both “arose out of conversation with a friend who was somewhat unreasonably attached to modern books of moral philosophy.”

Expostulation and Reply

“WHY, William, on that old grey stone,
Thus for the length of half a day,
Why, William, sit you thus alone,
And dream your time away?

“Where are your books?–that light bequeathed
To Beings else forlorn and blind!
Up! up! and drink the spirit breathed
From dead men to their kind.

“You look round on your Mother Earth,
As if she for no purpose bore you;
As if you were her first-born birth,
And none had lived before you!”

One morning thus, by Esthwaite lake,
When life was sweet, I knew not why,
To me my good friend Matthew spake,
And thus I made reply:

“The eye–it cannot choose but see;
We cannot bid the ear be still;
Our bodies feel, where’er they be,
Against or with our will.

“Nor less I deem that there are Powers
Which of themselves our minds impress;
That we can feed this mind of ours
In a wise passiveness.

“Think you, ‘mid all this mighty sum
Of things for ever speaking,
That nothing of itself will come,
But we must still be seeking?

“–Then ask not wherefore, here, alone,
Conversing as I may,
I sit upon this old grey stone,
And dream my time away,”

1798.

The Tables Turned
An Evening Scene on the Same Subject

UP! up! my Friend, and quit your books;
Or surely you’ll grow double:
Up! up! my Friend, and clear your looks;
Why all this toil and trouble?

The sun, above the mountain’s head,
A freshening lustre mellow
Through all the long green fields has spread,
His first sweet evening yellow.

Books! ’tis a dull and endless strife:
Come, hear the woodland linnet,
How sweet his music! on my life,
There’s more of wisdom in it.

And hark! how blithe the throstle sings!
He, too, is no mean preacher:
Come forth into the light of things,
Let Nature be your teacher.

She has a world of ready wealth,
Our minds and hearts to bless–
Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health,
Truth breathed by cheerfulness.

One impulse from a vernal wood
May teach you more of man,
Of moral evil and of good,
Than all the sages can.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings;
Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:–
We murder to dissect.

Enough of Science and of Art;
Close up those barren leaves;
Come forth, and bring with you a heart
That watches and receives.

While browsing for more information I found a critique of this poem:

“Yes, another one of these. There is a discernible attitude, among some poets, that book learning (and science in particular) is somehow ‘unnatural’ and ‘unpoetic’, and that by its pursuit the human race is abandoning its collective spirituality, so to speak, and moving away from nature. This has spawned a whole brood of fallacies and misrepresentations, from Rousseau’s unfoundedly praised ‘noble savage’ to Whitman’s unjustly reviled ‘learned astronomer’.[1]

Follow the links to…

When I Heard the Learn’d Astronomer

When I heard the learn’d astronomer;
When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me;
When I was shown the charts and the diagrams, to add, divide, and
measure them;
When I, sitting, heard the astronomer, where he lectured with much
applause in the lecture-room,
How soon, unaccountable, I became tired and sick;
Till rising and gliding out, I wander’d off by myself,
In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,
Look’d up in perfect silence at the stars.

-Walt Whitman

…and you find a very similar critique by a different person:

“The thing that gets my goat about today’s poem is the basic conceit -that Science, by measuring and analysing the natural world, somehow detracts from its innate beauty. I guess it comes down to a personal point of view (though I for one am against this entire ‘two cultures’ divide – I don’t see why the two world-views should collide at all); nevertheless, I take issue with all those poets (and yes, scientists) who propagate it. I fail to see how understanding Nature gets in the way of appreciating it; indeed, to me, there is something wonderfully poetic about the notion that there are millions of stars in millions of galaxies, further than the eye can see, each with their own solar systems and cometary halos and asteroid belts and ringed planets and red spots and blue planets…

Any poet who thinks that science is an impersonal, mechanical monster, committed to destroying beauty and truth and the joy of individuality, reducing the Universe to facts and figures, charts and numbers, doesn’t know the first thing about science.”

I disagree. I think that is exactly the nature of Science. There’s nothing wrong with a little observation, and experimentation, but capital “S” Science capital “S” Sucks and is synonymous with civilization. For exactly what is wrong with Science watch this video satire by the Onion: Study; Multiple Stab Wounds May Be Harmful to Monkeys.

Along these same lines, even other primitivists freak out when you talk about torching libraries. While there does exist a handful of inspirational anticivilizational authors, and I occasionally use books such as field guides and anthropological texts to help me rewild, I wouldn’t be all that sad if I never got to read one again. I think I’d figure things out. I hope that my grandchildren never learn how to read. I hope that they don’t have any reason to.

“…there is no record, in the entire history of the Library, that any of its illustrious scientists and scholars ever seriously challenged the political, economic and religious assumptions of their society. The permanence of the stars was questioned; the justice of slavery was not. Science and learning in general were the preserve of a privileged few. The vast population of the city had not the vaguest notion of the great discoveries taking place within the Library. New findings were not explained or popularized. The research benefited them little. Discoveries in mechanics and steam technology were applied mainly to the perfection of weapons, the encouragement of superstition, the amusement of kings. The scientists never grasped the potential of machines to free people. The great intellectual achievements of antiquity had few immediate practical applications. Science never captured the imagination of the multitude. There was no counterbalance to stagnation, to pessimism, to the most abject surrenders to mysticism. When, at long last, the mob came to burn the Library down, there was nobody to stop them.”

-Carl Sagan on the burning of the great library at Alexandria

You could say in the last 2000 years, the multitude, including our dear friend Carl with his freedom machines, have become caught up in the spectacle of Science, led to believe that it is on their side, but other than that have things really changed?

Note: If you liked this entry check out Urban Scout’s blog: Tracking Trumps Science.

15 Responses to “Burn the Libraries”

  1. mythiccartographer Says:

    Speak it Sister! Hallelujah!

    Things have changed…they’ve gotten worse. The average ‘peasant’ of 2 thousand years ago knew more about the shifting and complex living earth than most trained biologists today.

    We now have books so we don’t have to look at the world.

    Some claim they can hold scientific data and empathic relationship in their heads simultaneously. If so, congrats to them. For most, the data kills the relationship. Science kills the world by explaining it away.

  2. Jacob Says:

    Is a rainbow really less spectacular simply because we have a physical mechanism for how it forms?

    One of the misconceptions of the scientific process–that unfortunately is also held by many scientists who forget to pause and reflect–is that science is a quest for truth. Without delving into the philosophy of science here, the process by which science gains information is really closer to a method of trial-and-error. We don’t come up with theories that are correct; instead, we keep learning from our mistakes to falsify our previous notions of the physical world. We will never have a perfect description of a mechanistic universe, because our scientific theories are simply abstract descriptions that seem to work.

    I do agree that extreme deconstructionism in science can yield a dead and mechanistic view of the world, but I doubt this is true of science as a whole. My research and study of astrobiology has made me more aware than ever of the immense complexities and interconnectedness of the biosphere, and this realization has transcended past the graphs, equations, and figures into something much more personally enlightening and spiritual.

    The fault lay not with science itself, but (often) with how its practitioners approach the craft and how its implications are (or are not) disseminated to the public. But I certainly agree with Carl Sagan in that, “Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.”

    (Sorry for being so long winded here. Thanks for your thoughts, Penny!)

  3. Ryan Says:

    thanks Penny for the great post and poetry.

    PIggybacking off of Jacob’s comment – i have friend who calls it the “labelling fallacy” by which we think we understand something because we can name it and put it on a shelf. The wonder doesn’t cease because we have found out how a rainbow functions materially, or externally. Science can only study that aspect of reality by its very conception the “noumen” is off limits.

    So of course it’s compatible with spirituality….. those who say it is not are, well dammit, they’re exceeding their epistemological warrant. in other words, they’re forgetting that their methods are defining their worldview and their methods are very limited.

  4. Eric Says:

    What about Disease?

    If your decision meant that your kids died of a disease that could have been cured…I don’t know…

  5. Eric Says:

    Oh yeah, and I am a big fan of the idea of space travel too…I don’t think we will ever get to play in that wilderness if we don’t work with science…I think the structure of books could largely change…A book doesn’t have to be something you sit down in front of…the internet will at some point become less clunky…and may someday even be wirelessly enjoyed in the wildest haunts of our planet through a virtual interface…you could “take something in” while tooling along through the forest or while eating…whether it were a squierel that you then went tracking…or a book on the theory of fluid dynamics that you later use to succesfully ford a river…But it is funny how dumb people can be in general…It took thousands of years before a scientist explained that something that weighs more doesn’t fall fast than something that weighs less…and I still think science is doing good work in neutralizing certain ridiculous forms of spirituality that come from Christianity and the other major religions…there are, you would have to agree, some kinds of benefit…

  6. martha Says:

    There are so many good points here! Having grown up in a fundamentalist christian household where I was taught that creationism and a literal reading of the bible was “the truth” and then coming to read and learn about biology on my own, I think I have a unique outlook on spirituality and science. I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive. I think that there are spiritual people and people that don’t have a spiritual bone in their body. I think the real culprit is hierarchy which is part and parcel with both civilization and much of judeo-christian thought. It is the very “biblical” notion that “man gave names to all the animals” that has given scientists license to torture animals in the name of science for the last however many years. Without this sense of superiority I don’t think that science would have as bad a rep as it does in some circles. I really don’t think it’s a black and white issue. Although I appreciate everyone’s point of view and think it’s important to keep from generalizing.

  7. martha Says:

    Oh yeah, that carl sagan quote KICKS ASS!

  8. James Says:

    My sister was pretty receptive to these ideas, for a library science major.

    But man does give names to all the animals; that’s what kind of animal he is… perhaps we can forgive him for choosing the name “homo sapiens sapiens” for himself! I think that’s funny.

    I had an idea: we must need to come to terms with our own darkness. It doesn’t seem right to blame “science” or “civilization” for things, as if they were some kind of independant, malevolent entities. It’s people who have done all these things, and we’d better figure out what our problem is, because that’s the root. What do you think?

  9. Fleg Stronkanstep Says:

    Hi,

    I like books. They give me hours and hours of wonderful entertainment and wisdom that most human beings at present are completely incapable of.

    I’ll tell you what : you engage in a project to increase the intelligence, wisdom, and general enjoyability of the average human, and when you’re finished with that, how about then we get back together and discuss this absurd idea of burning libraries.

  10. James Says:

    Does Mr. Stronkanstep really think reading is “good for you,” period? Which book? Read in what way, by whom, etc. etc.? Of course we all know how wonderful it is to read. I can just feel the ghosts of my teachers patting me on the head.

    Of course, the whole point of this hypothetical arson is priorities, right? If your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. That’s from a book. Of course, the guy who said it was a total nut, but it’s the idea, not the person who says it. That’s also an idea I got from a book. Believe me or not, but I could eventually get the idea that these books are telling me it would be okay to burn them, under the right circumstances.

    So paradoxically, if you idolize books you don’t respect the ideas they contain. Some really whacked out ideas are ironically imprisoned in stacks of paper which are dutifully read by people who read more than they think, and think more than they act. And we’re taught to idolize these papers and guard them in special climate controlled fortresses. Isn’t that a bit stupid?

  11. Penny Scout Says:

    I appreciate the rousing comments. Even if I were the type to actually burn things down WHICH I”M NOT, I would never actually burn down a library as a symbolic or real action as there are much worse institutions out there in need of destruction, and frankly I’ll save all that “firewood” for when people need it. A library just isn’t really a point of great leverage when were talking about dismantling a whole civilization.

    But I stand by my view that I really wouldn’t mind too much if all that knowledge were to just disappear as 99% of it is not applicable to actually living, or at best confusing and distracting. Who really cares if we know why things work the way they work? ATP and DNA, atoms, and quarks. Does it make our lives better? I think not. I also think it’s a wild goosechase with no end. This is what makes a primitivist a primitivist. The idea that civilization makes our lives worse not better IS fairly well documented. Many will argue, especially, as Eric brought up about modern medicine. However, most maladies treated by modern medicine are modern diseases! Cavities, poor eye sight, cancer, heart attacks.

    It may not be inherently evil, but Science cannot be separated from the system. Most of modern science requires high technology, which requires civilization. For example you need materials and manufacturing systems and energy to make machines like x-rays, and a slave class to mine those materials and assemble them, destroying and toxifying the planet in the process and creating more disease while the doctors rake in the big bucks and the pharmaceutical companies even bigger.

    Now you can create your own scientific experiments. You get two bee stings, rub some plantain on one and see what happens. You can cut down willows in the same patch year after year and leave another patch unattended and compare the difference. This is folk science, not capital Science. The very basis of modern Science, that the participants can and/or should be unable to influence the outcome is the antithesis of shamanistic healing and perpetuates the false idea that all things are separate. Furthermore some tribes people, shamans and other spiritual types have been able to describe aspects of DNA or atoms or star systems invisible to the naked eye BEFORE scientists discovered them through their methods.

    I too used to spend many enjoyable hours reading books. I came home from school and sat in the corner by the furnace vent and read books. On the weekends I laid on the couch read books all day, during the summer I sat outside on the patio, got a good suntan and read books. But really what do I have to show for it? What else could I have been doing? Maybe nothing much better considering limited alternatives in this society (television, drugs, bible school). But I doubt I’d be worse off. Maybe I would have actually, like, played outside. Reading doesn’t really give you any skills for living well (Especially if its title is HOW TO LIVE WELL). There is so much conflicting and untrue information out there that only doing stuff, experiencing life, and most importantly trusting your own gut does that. A book may get you started when friends, teachers, and mentors are few and far between but I think that’s about it.

    Perhaps the system was not set up for me to do anything better with my adolescence than read, which is why burning the libraries I really mean burn civilization including school, books, governments, business, cars, all of it and replace it with a system that frees us from drudgery and depression, work, and ecological destruction, a system that existed on this planet for thousands of years before the short accidental blip known as civilization which is imploding on itself as we speak. I’m not sure if the future will look like the past but I doubt it will include a higher and higher levels of material evolution and frankly I don’t see why everyone is so desirous of that future when it’s proven time and time again that technology doesn’t = happiness and as cliche as it sounds, thats all that anybody really wants.

    I don’t want to get new agey on anybody’s ass, and I don’t even believe in enlightenment per se but some claim that to become “enlightened” all we really need is to wake up to the fact that we already are. It’s much simpler I think to wake up to the fact that materially (and our existence kind of confirms this) we do and always have had housing, food, medicine, community, and everything else we could ever need. The idea that we need to progress anywhere is an illusion, and waking up to that fact is part of the universal game.
    Just a thought.

  12. Andrew Jensen Says:

    Almost all science throughout history has been “folk science” as you call it. Capital S science began either with Edison or with the Manhattan project depending on how you define it. Before that, even relatively famous experimenters like Marie Curie were essentially experimenting in their garage. Bg science makes Big technology only. Little science can discover almost anything.

    I don’t have a problem with 99% of the stuff in a library having no meaning to you. That’s probably true of a lot of people. But my 1% of usefulness won’t be the same as yours. And right now we don’t know which 1% will be useful. I’m sure we can lose all the books about making money quick, but anything else might contain that nugget of wisdom we need. So as long as you don’t have a problem with someone else trying to keep the rest of it, we’re cool.

  13. Eric Says:

    I suppose I grant that some modern diseases are the result of modernity.

    It seems improbable, however, that all of them are…and I still find the question interesting…you’ve spoken at length about your view of medicine, but you haven’t offered an answer to my question…rather than ask it again, let me do something even worse: dig deeper with a similar question…

    I am not interested in insisting on how things would be without science, but one thing seems certain about any such grand amendments to the past: you and I wouldn’t exist.

    Elimination of civilization and structured investigation would have resulted in many differences…I suppose my question is if you are willing to affirm your preference if it means you blip out of existence…

    NOT because I think such silly little mind games are interesting, but because it gets back to the spirit of the question I asked about medicine…medicine is largely an effort to defend oneself from non-existence…it seems likely that much of medicine could be characterized by a fear of not existing…

    So are you afraid of that? Would you affirm what you suggest if it meant your never having existed? Is this world so constituted that you would negate your own existence rather than let it exist as it does?

    I at least can’t imagine asking that question without considering it’s meaning in terms of suicide…

  14. porkbarrel Says:

    I don’t really think the world would be much better if people were still subject to smallpox epidemics, trichinosis, and a myriad of other ills that a scientific approach has given simple solutions to. Neither do I think that several billion people having to build shelter, keep warm, hunt and gather without the benefit of strategic materials use would leave us with a vibrant, healthy planet. Not that civilization optimizes resources in many cases, but a retreat to willful ignorance is hardly the route to utopia. Just the opposite, I think. It might be interesting to imagine what kind of world we would have if we lived in a sort of balanced, technologically stagnant society like North American natives had, but it is strictly fantasy. Those people were fully stoked to get their hands on steel tools and guns once they showed up. Is the world better for that? Good question, but you can’t turn back the clock.

  15. abby Says:

    Hey, Penny i love your little blog thing here. but you got to give science some credit. i mean how do you think you got all those drugs you were talking about taking in your blog awhile ago. what about atoms… i know your all about nature but don’t you live in a house most the time? where do you think you got your electricity.

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